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If you're old enough to remember when phones had cords and the only thing that went viral was a cold,  then you're in the right place. Welcome to the Big Six-O with Kaylee Harris and Guy Rowlison. Because who better to discuss life's second act than two people who still think mature is a type of cheese?

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Well, hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of The Big Six-O.  Now we have done something similar in an earlier episode. We talked about  TV shows growing up like Romper Room and Play School and all those kind of Aussie ones. So we thought we'd  vary it a little bit today and talk about  TV shows  mainly from overseas.  My name's Kayleigh Harris and my co-host here,  Guy Rolison. We were besties, or you weren't actually. I didn't even know you existed in primary school, did I?

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I think I only lusted after your Vegemite sandwiches.  I think you did. Yeah. Well, I lusted after your brother-in-law who was the school captain at the time. Hello, Rob.  So yeah, so this is our connection. So  Guy and I go back to primary school in the 70s and we had this great idea, or Guy did, for a podcast about all things to do with being our age.

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or somewhere around our age. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the vicinity, you could smell it from where you are. Yeah, that's right. That's pretty close. Or you can turn over your shoulder and see it where it was. Yeah, yeah. It's a bit of... You should never look back in history sometimes, you know, with that old girlfriends, old boyfriends or just... Sometimes there's a fondness in doing that though too, right? That's it. That's it. Yeah. Nice to see you all. Yeah, good to see you too. Now let's dive into the 60s and TV shows. The first one that pops into my mind is...

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Lost in Space  because it  scared the day. I loved it but it scared the daylights out of me and my mum eventually stopped me from watching it because I would have, I'd be so scared I wouldn't want to go to bed because of the, remember there was  one episode where there was an alien in it going crush,  kill, destroy. Crush,  kill,  destroy. Crush,  kill and he was going after Will and the robot.

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And warning warning danger will erupt the props were so real in that program great It was great, know, you'd pick up boulders those styrofoam boulders and be able to throw them  and some of those aliens were really scary. Oh, it was and yeah, it was and then  Penny the character in the TV show had  at some point got a pet monkey Well, they got that from with little antenna sticking out of its ear. Do you remember that?  do vaguely remember that. Yeah, they probably picked that at like the Costco of

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whatever some planet that because they always managed to get off a planet could never get home could that's right in the Jupiter to the Jupiter to yeah yeah and Will Robinson and the robot Dr. Smith I loved him  yeah you bobbleheaded boobies now you stay here and cover our retreat you bobbleheaded boobies I liked it because there was a guy who played Zorro who was the captain Guy Williams he was he was the father yeah and he was the only other person that I knew had the name Guy

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Yeah, of course. So I thought, wow, this is a great program. And what was the name of the the offside of the copilot? he was a good looking fellow. He was a good looking fellow and he was in love with Judy, the daughter. Yes. They had a thing going on. They had a little secret. Yeah. Yeah. Because was it Penny who was the child actor in The Sound of Music? Yes. Yeah. Angela Cutt, right? That's her. And she's gone and hopped on the Jupiter 2 and off she goes.

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And if you ever remember the pilot episode of Lost in Space,  Dr. Smith  snuck on board at the last minute. That's how he ended up on there. And I can't remember why he snuck on board. I think he was gonna steal something,  but he ended up stuck there and it took off. Cause all the others, all the other characters were in frozen in time for takeoff in some, in those tube things.

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If ever you get a chance, go back and watch the pilot episode of Lost in Space. is so cool. You're a fan. Yeah. I'm going to have to do that. So Zachary Smith, what were you thinking? Oh, no.  But they were always stranded. They were stranded, weren't they? Right. They never managed to home.  It's not like another...  And they had that really cool vehicle you could drive around on planets, remember, with the six wheels and...

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whatever that was called. That was a whole era. There was a whole era of those spacey sort of programs, wasn't there? Yeah. Yeah. I won't steal your thunder. No,  but completely different to that.

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was Gilligan's Island. We're talking in the 60s and I guess so in the 70s as well when a lot of those TV shows were just half hour episodes and they were on at the same time every week.

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and you just lived to watch the next episode. And Gilligan's Island, of course, if you  don't remember, was  seven castaways, head off on a three hour cruise.  Storm hits and they end up stuck on some remote island where just like  in Lost in Space, they couldn't get home.  They never got off the island. And yet they came up with so many different inventions like, oh, I've built a radio out of coconuts.

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But never once did they think I can repair the boat. Yeah, that's right. We  never repaired the boat.  why did Ginger have so many outfits on a three hour cruise? And why did the Howls have all that money on a three hour cruise? They're mysteries,  but I was a Mary Ann sort of guy.  You strike me as a Mary Ann sort of guy. I'm a Mary Ann guy.  But you're right. Ginger had a multitude of Hollywood  outfits. yet Gilligan wore the same hat.

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same pants, same red shirt every day and the skipper was the same and yet the howls,  bags of money, bags full of money, Ginger,  bags full of,  and Mary Ann always had the little crop top tied at the thing, but yeah, but then the professor, same gear, but yeah, he could make radios, he could send satellites, but could not repair a boat. That's right.

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It seemed like all they ever ate on Gilligan's Island was coconut cream pie.  I made one one day. I found a recipe for coconut cream pie that's actually really nice.  Will you do that for me one day? I will.

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Wow, I've always wanted a coconut cream pie.  And there was that whole episode. But how many people visited that island? Yeah, all these people, and none of them helped them get off. No, not at all. There was a Tarzan character on one episode. There was some evil magician guy. Yeah, yeah. They all came. They all left. They all did nothing. Yeah. But there was a reunion thing, wasn't there? Years and years later, where they managed to find their way back.

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to civilization  and decided, no, this isn't for me. then  went back to the island.  And about probably 20 years ago now, the island, you know, when in the opening credits of Gilligan's Island, and you see a picture of the island there,  the actual island, that island went up for sale. Is that right? It was for sale. Yeah, about 20 years ago. And I think someone was asking, it's only a very tiny little thing. And it was like 15 million or something for the island somewhere in

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off the coast of the  US,  off the East Coast. That would be in the Gulf of America, would it? Somewhere there.  Well, I'm sorry, just, if I had a sooner, I would have just gone to the bank. Yeah, well, paid cash. And you know what? I've got another little bit of trivia about Gilligan's Island in the opening credits where you see the Marina,  where the boats pulling out of the Marina to go on its three hour cruise. You'll notice there's a couple of other boats in that shot that have got flags on the back of the boats that are at half mast.

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And you know why? Because it was filmed when Kennedy was shot. Is that right? Yep. Because it's in Hawaii. Yep. And I've been there. Yep. And it didn't occur to me until I walked past it. That looks just like the marina. And someone said, it's because it is the marina. The marina. Yeah. So that's a great bit of trivia. Yeah. Next time if you watch it. Yeah. That's why their flags were half masked because it was... they filmed that opening sequence not long after Kennedy That's amazing. I had no idea. I'm going to take that with me.

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There you go. Can I use that? Of course you can. Fantastic. I'm wondering if smooth that into some conversation  somewhere. Hey, were you a Saturday morning cartoons girl? Yeah, I think every kid was. Yeah, did you have a favourite? I think,  see Thunderbirds at 6 o'clock.

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Thunderbirds are go.

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Did you have a favourite Thunderbird? Virgil. Virgil? I loved Virgil. And you knew the story behind all those. were all the Gemini 6 astronauts. All those characters were named after the Gemini 6 astronauts. Oh really? No, didn't know that. So Virgil and Scott and I think they were all the original astronauts. Yeah, yeah. That was Gordon. That was Alan Shepard. Yep. Oh wow. I think all those characters were named after, I think it Gemini 6. Someone will correct us. And what about the Brains?

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Yes, my lady. Oh, and Parker. Well done,  Parker.  Thank you, madam.  Home,  my lady.  Home,  Parker. Who didn't love Parker and that Rolls Royce and Lady Penelope? Oh, Lady Penelope. Lady Penelope, yeah. Wow, yeah, yeah. And so, but I loved that, of all the...

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They had Thunderbird 1. Thunderbird 2 seems to be everyone's favourite. I Thunderbird 2. Yeah. Yeah. And poor Alan, he was the one up in Thunderbird 5, wasn't he? Up in space. Up in space. Yeah. Never saw any action. No. Poor old Alan, nothing ever happened up there. nothing. Yep. He had no friends.  Didn't read  the job description, did he? Like, so mate, you've got nothing. No one's really going to contact you.  And same with Gordon in Thunderbird 4.

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Was he the one that was the Aqua one the Aqua one? Yeah, like no, he never got a very rarely got a call out. No, it's like please dad Can I go out and do something and he was very excited when he got to put Thunderbird 4? inside Thunderbird 2 and then it get dropped out and  what which one was Thunderbird 3?

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Was there a I think there were two rockets, like Thunderbird 1 and... they were both rockets,  which  must have meant that they'd run out of...  what are we going to do? We've got one in space, we've got one under the sea, we've got a big bulbous looking one,  let's just do two rockets.  So... That's like a plan. Yeah, I think Alan and who was the other guy?

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in space. Oh, Alan was in space, Gordon was in the... They just took the money and run, didn't they? Yeah, and the bad guy, remember the bald bad guy in Thunderbirds whose eyes used to light up? Yeah, that's Oh, he was scary. I just used to be taken with Parker's eyebrows. Yes. You wanted them, didn't you? They were very John Howard. He was like, I think they might have mirrored one another. They had their own postcode almost. Oh, they did. They were amazing. the Saturday morning cartoon thing.

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Yeah, there were so many of them. I mean, you had your Scooby Doo's and all those sort of things, but there was a whole series of things like George of the Jungle.  George, George, George of the Jungle's Strongest He Can Be. Watch out for that tree. And Super Chica and...

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Top Cat, are you thinking those ones? No, well Top Cat, there was a series of three. There was Tom Slick and Super Chicken and George of the Jungle and they ran after one another. But of course George of the Jungle went on to become a movie.

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And the others got left behind. And others got Why Tom Slick and Super Chicken got left behind? I'm not sure. But Top Cat. Is that when Rocky and Bullwinkle were? Yeah. I loved Rocky  And Fractured Fairy Tales. Fractured Fairy You have Sherman and Peabody. Yeah. All those. Just way too many. Yeah. McGilligarilla and  oh, you know. Yeah, they were great, weren't Yeah, they were. Were you into Get Smart? Yes. Yeah.

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sunbeam tiger that he used to drive, know, pull up there and... Is that what it was called? It was a sunbeam tiger. Yeah, Yeah, why I know that I don't know. Yeah, and he used to talk like this chief. Talk like it? Did you have a crush on, we've done an episode before on Celebrity Crushes, what about 99? Did you have a crush on her? No, not What was her name, Barbara Felden? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the chief did more for me than Barbara Felden, to be honest. Is there something you need to tell me?

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Okay, moving right along, I dream of Jeannie. Now there's one that I probably had a crush on Barbara Eden.

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Did you know,  and I might be wrong, but I think somewhere in the recesses over my mind,  she was not allowed to show her belly button on that show once. She had the mid-drift hop,  but the producers and something said, no, we're  not gonna permit you to show your belly button on that show. And when I looked back, I looked at a couple episodes and I thought, maybe I can't.

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I think it was a thing. think it was a thing. Yeah. But I mean, you had, you know, the whole, you know, little blonde ponytail and the, you know, but yeah. But at the same time  as I dream of Jeannie, there was bewitched. So we had these two kind of magic women, but totally different personalities and different premises for the programs. But weren't they great? What was some mother-in-law's name?  Endora. Endora. Yeah. And, they had a change of

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Darren's didn't they? I think I had three different Darren's. And we weren't supposed to notice that there was a character change. All of a sudden there's Darren one. I Gladys across the road who always knew something was going on but no one believed her. There was a lot of those sort of things. It's like Mr. Ed. Yeah. And like even though Mr. Ed was always talking to, hello Wilbur. Yeah. There was always the guy that almost caught them but never quite did. Yeah. What was with that? Yeah. That little half hour.

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of Talking Horse or Genie or whatever was great idea. Well, it was a whole Sherwood Schwartz idea of TV shows in the sixties, wasn't it? Yeah. And it brings me to things like Hogan's Heroes and Mikhail's Navy, throwbacks to the war where we'll do something military sort of based and Hogan's Heroes, you know, talks about Germany in the second world war and they were American POWs.

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Whereas Mikhail's Navy, obviously the Navy on a ship.  And so we had that whole kind of naval thing or military thing going on for while. And  the thing about Hogan's hero is, once again, I'm just diving into the recesses of my mind. It was either a lot of the actors were Jewish actors.  From Colonel Clink  to Sergeant Schultz  to General Bolkhalter, they're all Jewish actors. And essentially the premise was...

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even though  it was a serious subject,  the producers and the directors, a lot of Jewish influence there, it was to actually make fun of the German people  as  a comedy. I'm sure it was cathartic in a way  for a lot of them, but  it was another half hour afternoon TV, same as Mikhail's Navy, they had the sidekick Fuji. Yes, that's right.  How was it that in Hogan's Heroes they were never able to escape?

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Starlark 13. They got out many times. had tunnels going everywhere, they wouldn't, but they never left it. They had it too good. They had shots who saw nothing. I  was not here. did not even get up this morning.  So I mean, if they had have been captured, I'm sure they probably, but they always got the people back to London or wherever it was. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. It's another, it's another Gilligan's Island moment. Isn't it? Like you can do everything except

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to help yourself. And speaking of military themed shows,  one of my all time favourites was F Troop.  Oh, I never really got into F Troop.  Loved  F Troop. was one that was fun. Is it  true?  Did  they really have the Fakawees?  that's  right. The Fakawee tribe. The Fakawees? Yeah, I think so. It was a great show. Anyone that knows what we're talking about will be able to relate.

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Let's talk about  cop shows and show, like we talked about numerous times, we talked about Starsky and Hutch and how you had your Starsky jacket that you wore and you've shown me photos, very cool.  The other one was  Adam 12.

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one.

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That blonde guy in one item tw- in item 12 is just a cool ass. There was a whole raft of... you know that.

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I remember Adam 12, it was great. You know, had the top of the car going along and yeah, they had that, as you said, one Adam 12, one Adam 12, I know if anyone knew that. But then you had things like Streets of San Francisco, which started to merge into, and Chips, who didn't love Erica Strada and Larry Wilcox, you know? Yeah, in Chips, all the cop shows. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. And Emergency. Emergency? Yeah. Rampart 13, Rampart 13. Oh, you watch too much TV, I clearly watch too much Too much TV. And that morphed into...

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more serious programs like Hill Street Blues.  Mission Impossible. Mission Impossible. Yeah, that was great. Yeah, so many and so much subject matter too. Oh, I know. And the other two, we talked about Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie being very similar.  So was  the Addams Family and the Munsters. Yes.

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They're creepy and they're kooky, mysterious and spooky They're all together oooky, the Addams Family  Their house is a museum, when people come to see them They really are a screem,  the Addams Family

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very similar. you have a favourite out of those two?  I was probably, it's really line ball. It really is line ball. I did like watching the Addams Family but I loved the Munsters for their quirkiness. loved, yeah I loved the Munsters as well. I thought they were a bit more fun. Yeah and once again, not so serious. No  and once again they had a change of cast after the first season because Marilyn in the first season was changed out for a

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different Marilyn from season two. Yes. know that. Yeah. So same blonde sort of look, not as obvious as the Darren change out in Bewitch, but yeah, a different Marilyn from season one to season two. Yeah, wow. And until March.

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recently, I think the guy that played grandpa was still trading off the whole grandpa thing. Yeah, like that. That was his bread and butter. Yeah. Wow. But great. I thought it was great. And they had a great car. The Munsters too, the Munster mobile. That's right. Yeah. But how good was that? That's another podcast about cars.  Let's talk about,  let's get into the seventies when we saw it started to see the likes of $6 million man and woman, the whole concept about, you know, Lee majors doing all that. had fantasy Island.

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And of course, happy days came in.

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I loved Happy Day. That was an iconic show. It was a great show. I read the biography, the autobiography from Henry Winkler not that long ago. What did you think? Oh, it was great. It gave you lot of insights about the cast and the fact that it got to the point that whole jumping the shark terminology which stemmed from that episode where they went to Hawaii and right, that's right. mean, and that's part of the vernacular.

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days.  But so many insights and the fact that they wanted to change the name from Happy Days to Fonzie's Happy Days. did they? Yeah and Henry Winkler was dead against it. said no no no this is a basically a team  environment and this is what's built its success  and he could also see that it would cause  ruminations among the other cast members. good on him  but yeah a great book but

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Yeah, I thought it sort of jumped the shark when they started to bring Char Chi in to be honest. then there was another and I thought, oh, cause it went for like... Susie Quattro made an appearance as Leather Tuscadero?  Once again, way too much television you and I have watched. Yes. A hundred She came in as well. But we all loved Mrs. Cunningham, Marion. Mr. C,  Ralph Malf and Pottsie. And of course the big brother once again got written.  His name is Chuck. Chuck, yeah. And he got written out of the first series. And I thought, is this And Al's from the...

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Yeah, because Al Del Vecchio then become or was it the other way around? Because the guy from, what's his name from Karate Kid? Yeah, he was. was, he was the original Al? I think he was, yeah. Then it went to Al Del Vecchio. Yeah, yeah. So it was another, another great show. What about the two that again are similar to me, Different Strokes and Welcome Back Cotter. Two we started to see African American characters coming in and

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and being funny and being clever.  Did you have a favourite out of those? I loved Welcome Back Cotter. Yeah, I loved Welcome Back Cotter too. That was when we first saw John Travolta. It was.

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he, uh, he's Vinny Barbarino and cause you know, they had some catchphrases and apparently every show had to have its catchphrase. Like, you know, uh, what you're talking about Willis, what you're talking about Willis and up your nose with a rubber hose. Uh, so, know, and Epstein was in it and of course, you know, he had boom boom Washington in welcome back Cotter. And it was, that was my favorite hour, different strikes, different. I enjoyed it, but welcome back Cotter. probably

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was able to relate to that more because it was about a high school. And Gabe Kaplan, of course, was a teacher. then those little... What about... And the other one, Good Times. Good Times. That was a good show. That was a great show. And once again, as you say, it was that...

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renaissance of  African American actors  that are in prime time television and making a name for themselves because harking back to the 60s you didn't say like but there was a show and you may not remember this because you're way younger than I am. Oh yes, about three days.  There was a show in the late 60s early 70s called Julia  and I remember it was it was  a

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half hour sort of sitcom, semi-drama thing.  And her little boy,  I can't remember his name, but his best friend was Earl J. Wagadon.  And there was Dr. Chegley,  oh, Cory Baker.  So this lady was a nurse and she was  a African-American nurse and she just worked in that environment.  And yeah, it was one of the first shows I think I remember  outside of Star Trek who had,  was it Lieutenant O-

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Hoover  or whatever. And  very seldom did you see black actors  in those sort of things. But they brought so much to the screen didn't they? And still do.  100%. We were the poorer for not seeing it. Absolutely.  Now let me set your heart aflutter with Wonder Woman.  And I still only wear the costume on a Saturday night on special occasions.  Well that crosses over into first crushes for a lot of people. Wonder Woman was great with her invisible spacecraft.

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Yeah, she had to spin around to change into  being Wonder Woman though, didn't she? think so. Yeah, and she did some pretty amazing things.  Carter, wasn't Linda Carter, yep, she was amazing.  we used to, like, used to love every week watching the Muppet Show because you couldn't wait to find out who the guest was going to be.

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They had some guests too didn't they they had all the big really big names. They really did everyone I remember seeing John Denbrough's and John Travolta's Sylvester Stallone was on there was he really yeah, and there was a little bit of violence on there I think miss Piggy was involved in Kermit. I think he may have got a little bit of fisticuffs going on Okay,  good for kiddies at that time of night But that was once again that was a show that adults could watch as well because exactly and a level of humor that sort of resonated What was going on with Burton Ernie?

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Was that more Sesame Street? They didn't really make much of an appearance, did they?  I think the Muppet Show was more about animal. Yeah, that's right.  And that was all the Jim Henson thing, Sesame Street and Muppets. Because it was almost a TV spin-off, it? Yeah, I think it was.  Were you into MASH? No, no. Oh really?  watched it, but...  Didn't get into it? Didn't really get into it.

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Yeah. Yeah. Mash was pretty big. And but I bet you were into Kung Fu.  Oh, it'll grasshopper.  When you can snatch the pebble from my hand, it is time for you to leave. Yeah, that's the pebble from my hand.  When you could take the pebble from my hand.

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It will be time for you to never snatch the pebble. Whatever you do, whatever you do, show will be over. Yeah, it's in the other hand. Sorry, tricked you because and there was a, oh, you may not remember it. And I'm sorry if you do, because there was the bubble gum cards. And I remember being at school, collecting the Kung Fu bubble gum cards. it's probably he went for a couple of seasons. I think it was David Carradine was  the lead in that show. Yeah. He used to walk from town to town solving crimes or,  or, know, working his way into people's problems and

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He was amazing wasn't he? He just had the  daggy old shirt and hat and just walk around like Drew Pallong out of  Ricochet Rabbit. You'd be arrested these days if you did that.  Try arresting David Carradine back in the day. Good luck with that.  Were you into Police Woman? Police Women?  Woman,  singular, Angie Dickinson. Angie Dickinson.  Didn't watch a lot of There weren't a lot of police.

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female characters around that I think she was groundbreaking. Yes she was. There was another show and you might be able to remind me of it and there was two police women, Cagney and Lacey. Oh yeah, yeah that's right Cagney and Lacey. Yeah and I think they were almost running around the same time. But yeah Cagney and Lacey, Angie Dickinson, Wonder Woman. Yeah. I think I know which one I'm You know what I'm thinking too, another two that for some reason I put they're in the same

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category together is Incredible Hulk and My Favourite Martian. What?

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I don't know why. don't know why. Incredible Hulk and My Favorite Martian. Yeah, I just remember those two together. Maybe they're in the same time slot or something. Oh, gosh. Well, I remember both. Yeah. Yeah. But they were like 20 years apart, weren't they? My Favorite Martian was like a very black and white studio. I know. And The Incredible Hulk, which I always thought was going to be a great advertising campaign for a shirt manufacturer, you know, where the Hulk... it Bill Bixby or someone? He have gone through a lot of shirt. Yeah, like, I'm going to go...

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And I can't bust the shirt. Did every boy want to be like the Incredible Hulk when he was the Incredible Hulk? I think so.  My grandson  likes playing the Incredible Hulk. Yeah, wow. And so that's what, 50 years worth of Incredible Hulks. Yeah. It's gone generational. So did you ever used to watch, I remember having fish fingers and watching Disneyland  on a  Sunday night. they didn't miss it. No, it was like the fireworks and the whole Disney thing and every kid just.

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wanted to go to Disneyland.

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Yeah, exactly.  that, I think that was followed by Young Talent Time on a Sunday night. You didn't miss that either. Was that Saturday night? I can't remember. All he shows we just didn't miss. That was probably a girl thing. know that's a bit... That was an Aussie thing too. Aussie thing. Yeah. I'd say.  Speaking about celebrity crushes that we talked about in an earlier episode,  Knight Rider.  Oh.

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you

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How do we flight into the dangerous world of a man who does not exist? Really? Yeah, David Hasselhoff. Yeah, yeah. So, that or Baywatch? Yeah, well, exactly. A pair of red sluggos and David Hasselhoff running down the beach or him in the car. Him in the car. I you can only choose one.

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Which one do you want? Knight Rider. Knight Rider.  Actually when I went to Disneyland  years ago they had the Knight Rider car on display. Got a photo of me sitting in it.  It's really cool. Gosh,  I'm envying you all of a sudden. That was with like around the same time as Miami Vice. We've talked about that before and Baywatch, Magnum PI.

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Yep. They were all sort I met Tom Selleck. Did you? I did.  It was not long after. They'd just been filming the first... and he wasn't known. Yeah. Wow. And we were, of all places, we were in Hawaii.  And this guy was there and he looked very Hollywood. Yeah.  And someone said, oh, this man's going to be on these new TV series. I  must have been 17 or something. Yeah.  And I said, hello, how are you? Shook his hand and he sort of at least acknowledged me. Yeah, good. And then the program came out...

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like 12 months later and as a family we watched it and thought, oh my gosh, that's the bloke that we,  oh wow.  So that was my sort of rush with fame.  We could go on forever, we're going to have to wrap up soon, we're running out of time. Oh gosh, does that mean that we probably need to go away and re-watch Gilligan's Island, it? no, was Lost in Space. Lost in Space. I want to watch that again now. I want to watch that. I also want to go and watch  purely for space.

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research purposes. See if  there's a Billy Button showing on Barbara. think you should. Yeah. All right. Okay. We'll catch up later. All right. Okay. See you later.  The views and opinions expressed on the Big Six O are personal and reflect those of the hosts and guests.  They do not represent the views or positions of any affiliated organisations  or companies.  This podcast is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as professional advice.

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Please consult with a qualified professional for guidance on any personal matters.

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And before we go,  let's give credit where credit is due.  Kaylee Harris and I came up with all the genius content for this week's episode.  Our producer,  Nick Abood,  well he keeps the lights on and makes sure we don't accidentally upload a cat video instead of a podcast. thanks for keeping us on track, Nick.  Nick?  Nick?